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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SKETCH SO FAR... from meeting Feb. 21 at Coffee Exchange.


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Q. What needs to be done to create a  food sustainable Tucson? 
=============================================================

 RAISE AWARENESS and EDUCATE
------------------------------------------------------- 
#) Raise mass awareness that sustainability of food in the region IS an issue that needs addressing.... AND the Benefits of addressing it NOW. 
         -and-
#) Keep focus on Productive awareness raising rather than scare-tactic awareness raising. 
 
 * How:
  -- Outreach &amp; education to people that aren&#039;t even concerned right now.
  -- Viral video-spreading ...   
      ..You Tube power of community.. how cuba survived peak oil.
      .. The real dirt on farmer john.
  -- more...

 * Benefits of working toward regional food Sustainability 
      Such as:
     -- Stimulating local Economy (to list)
        . Creates more reliable local jobs... like...
     -- Security/insurance against  potential national food/transportation problems. 
     --  Improved Health  (to list)
         . Removing &quot;artificial&quot; foods from the diets..
     -- Improved Community (cultural) benefits (to list)


#) For those who are aware (or become aware), resources need to be organized so everyone can know where they can help / what&#039;s available to use or take action on.
   -- Online Map of existing  Resources
   -- Recommended reading of all kinds (list of Books written on related issues)                  
         .. Kevin Dahl ..food from the desert

#) What have other cities done that is successful, and how can we apply them to our region?
      -- Puget consumer&#039;s coop?
     (list more specific cities and info resources)



IDENTIFY FACTORS for REGIONAL FOOD SUSTAINABILITY
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#) What is the natural carrying capacity of the region - water vs max yield vs population?

#) Water-related issues,  options, and benefits
  -- Food production relying only on regional water
    - RainWater harvesting (personal and commercial property). 
    - GreyWater application (personal and commercial systems)
    - Rainfall utilization to direct to aquifer recharge (regional/governmental) 
    - Grey or Blackwater treatment and application (regional/governmental)
 -- Explore hydroponic efficiency in the desert? 
 -- Distilling water for potability? (enter energy issue... gets into water focus area, away from food)


ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE WHAT ALREADY EXISTS ...
----------------------------------------------
#)  Edible cityscaping / landscaping that benefits from with water harvesting and reclaimed city water.
     Such as:
     -  Food bearing, low-wateruse trees in easements, parks etc.
     - Organized harvesting of these foods (schools, businesses, comminity neighborhood groups, etc).

#) Existing BUSINESSES  that are in-sync with regional sustainability.
     Such as:
    -- Existing local-food producers  (identify/map .. list may exist with food co-op)
    -- Existing local-food distributers &amp; Sellers (list/map) 
    -- Restaurants who use local food... (list/map - find out why or why not, to find out how to better encourage)
        .. El conquistador
        .. Janos
        .. Blue Willow

#) Existing Organizations and community  that are in-sync with regional sustainability.
   -- CSA
   --  Backyard food-gardeners
    -- Farmers markets
    -- School kitchen gardens
   -- Community gardens that include food-growing
        .. identifying and mapping all existing community gardens for greater public awareness.

#) Making use of existing desert wild-food resources, and varieties of plantables that do well in the region for low-water use, taste, nutrition and yield.
   -- Tohono Odham &amp; other natives and  locals.
   -- Desert harvesters, Native seed search, etc.
   -- Mrs. English&#039;s book

    For things like:
     - Harvesting olives for olive oil
     - Mesquite bean flour


NEW DIRECTIONS TO ACT ON AS WELL...
---------------------------------------------------------------
#) Creation of new businesses, organizations, or other arrangements to further ends:
    -  Tucson food traders... gardeners and farmers barter with eachother.
        (carolyn bradson?)
    - Central Mercado (combination of farmers market and trading?)


#) Using Open land within the city  for further community food production, in sustainable way 
  - Identify/map sites
  - Usage regulations for the practice to enhance land&#039;s value and balance... without stripping it... work within existing landscape.
  - Coordinate with regional existing information about the best land/soil zones, permaculture practices, etc.
   

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Q. Who needs to be involved in the discussion, and solutions?
============================
- Water group
- CAP project
- Farms
- existing gated/development &quot;communities&quot; to turn them into real communities.




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Q. What does sustainable food mean? 
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#) Local production for what&#039;s needed to sustain basic community&#039;s food needs - meaning a 250 mile radius? (research/resouce and why)

#) Low-impact or positive-impact (hence sustainable, rather than deteriorating) practices.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
FURTHER NOTES (to be folded into above as appropriate)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

 #  Decreasing or eliminating dependance on long-distance transport of food.
       This may be achived by such things as:
         &gt; Food-related businesses using local farmers (incentives for doing so ... scaled by percentage of local vs transported food)
         &gt; Promoting &quot;Locally grown food served here&quot; as a value for businessses to brag about.
         &gt; Educating adults and children on the benefits of local food

    - Maximizing water efficiency of local food production.
       &gt; water harvesting and greywater use training/incentives for farms and gardeners alike
   
# Local wise-use AND balance maintenance of our resources.  
    - Ensuring sustainable practices are used for all agricultural lands. 
       * Some decisions should be made large scale / top-down based on statistics from impact studies, and permaculture sciences.
       * Some will require bottom-up approach, like community education to increase awareness for better eating-habits and values, that in-turn would shift the nature of food demand, and therefore the industry would be forced to respond.
        Points of concern may include:
       &gt; Organic practices that build soil through proper planting cycles, compost and mulching, rather than deplete soils through chemical fertelizing.
      &gt; Meat industry practices -- need attention.  Goes hand-in hand with education of community on impact-values to their health, as well as to the regions water use, polution, etc.

   - Incentives for more efficient operations at every level.

   - Encouraging &quot;Independence Gardens&quot; for all families, schools, prisons, etc.
     &gt; Home gardening also has the benefit of creating more vegetable-based diets in more people, which serves some of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SKETCH SO FAR&#8230; from meeting Feb. 21 at Coffee Exchange.</p>
<p>=============================================================<br />
Q. What needs to be done to create a  food sustainable Tucson?<br />
=============================================================</p>
<p> RAISE AWARENESS and EDUCATE<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
#) Raise mass awareness that sustainability of food in the region IS an issue that needs addressing&#8230;. AND the Benefits of addressing it NOW.<br />
         -and-<br />
#) Keep focus on Productive awareness raising rather than scare-tactic awareness raising. </p>
<p> * How:<br />
  &#8212; Outreach &#038; education to people that aren&#8217;t even concerned right now.<br />
  &#8212; Viral video-spreading &#8230;<br />
      ..You Tube power of community.. how cuba survived peak oil.<br />
      .. The real dirt on farmer john.<br />
  &#8212; more&#8230;</p>
<p> * Benefits of working toward regional food Sustainability<br />
      Such as:<br />
     &#8212; Stimulating local Economy (to list)<br />
        . Creates more reliable local jobs&#8230; like&#8230;<br />
     &#8212; Security/insurance against  potential national food/transportation problems.<br />
     &#8212;  Improved Health  (to list)<br />
         . Removing &#8220;artificial&#8221; foods from the diets..<br />
     &#8212; Improved Community (cultural) benefits (to list)</p>
<p>#) For those who are aware (or become aware), resources need to be organized so everyone can know where they can help / what&#8217;s available to use or take action on.<br />
   &#8212; Online Map of existing  Resources<br />
   &#8212; Recommended reading of all kinds (list of Books written on related issues)<br />
         .. Kevin Dahl ..food from the desert</p>
<p>#) What have other cities done that is successful, and how can we apply them to our region?<br />
      &#8212; Puget consumer&#8217;s coop?<br />
     (list more specific cities and info resources)</p>
<p>IDENTIFY FACTORS for REGIONAL FOOD SUSTAINABILITY<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>#) What is the natural carrying capacity of the region &#8211; water vs max yield vs population?</p>
<p>#) Water-related issues,  options, and benefits<br />
  &#8212; Food production relying only on regional water<br />
    &#8211; RainWater harvesting (personal and commercial property).<br />
    &#8211; GreyWater application (personal and commercial systems)<br />
    &#8211; Rainfall utilization to direct to aquifer recharge (regional/governmental)<br />
    &#8211; Grey or Blackwater treatment and application (regional/governmental)<br />
 &#8212; Explore hydroponic efficiency in the desert?<br />
 &#8212; Distilling water for potability? (enter energy issue&#8230; gets into water focus area, away from food)</p>
<p>ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE WHAT ALREADY EXISTS &#8230;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
#)  Edible cityscaping / landscaping that benefits from with water harvesting and reclaimed city water.<br />
     Such as:<br />
     &#8211;  Food bearing, low-wateruse trees in easements, parks etc.<br />
     &#8211; Organized harvesting of these foods (schools, businesses, comminity neighborhood groups, etc).</p>
<p>#) Existing BUSINESSES  that are in-sync with regional sustainability.<br />
     Such as:<br />
    &#8212; Existing local-food producers  (identify/map .. list may exist with food co-op)<br />
    &#8212; Existing local-food distributers &#038; Sellers (list/map)<br />
    &#8212; Restaurants who use local food&#8230; (list/map &#8211; find out why or why not, to find out how to better encourage)<br />
        .. El conquistador<br />
        .. Janos<br />
        .. Blue Willow</p>
<p>#) Existing Organizations and community  that are in-sync with regional sustainability.<br />
   &#8212; CSA<br />
   &#8212;  Backyard food-gardeners<br />
    &#8212; Farmers markets<br />
    &#8212; School kitchen gardens<br />
   &#8212; Community gardens that include food-growing<br />
        .. identifying and mapping all existing community gardens for greater public awareness.</p>
<p>#) Making use of existing desert wild-food resources, and varieties of plantables that do well in the region for low-water use, taste, nutrition and yield.<br />
   &#8212; Tohono Odham &#038; other natives and  locals.<br />
   &#8212; Desert harvesters, Native seed search, etc.<br />
   &#8212; Mrs. English&#8217;s book</p>
<p>    For things like:<br />
     &#8211; Harvesting olives for olive oil<br />
     &#8211; Mesquite bean flour</p>
<p>NEW DIRECTIONS TO ACT ON AS WELL&#8230;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
#) Creation of new businesses, organizations, or other arrangements to further ends:<br />
    &#8211;  Tucson food traders&#8230; gardeners and farmers barter with eachother.<br />
        (carolyn bradson?)<br />
    &#8211; Central Mercado (combination of farmers market and trading?)</p>
<p>#) Using Open land within the city  for further community food production, in sustainable way<br />
  &#8211; Identify/map sites<br />
  &#8211; Usage regulations for the practice to enhance land&#8217;s value and balance&#8230; without stripping it&#8230; work within existing landscape.<br />
  &#8211; Coordinate with regional existing information about the best land/soil zones, permaculture practices, etc.</p>
<p>============================<br />
Q. Who needs to be involved in the discussion, and solutions?<br />
============================<br />
- Water group<br />
- CAP project<br />
- Farms<br />
- existing gated/development &#8220;communities&#8221; to turn them into real communities.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Q. What does sustainable food mean?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>#) Local production for what&#8217;s needed to sustain basic community&#8217;s food needs &#8211; meaning a 250 mile radius? (research/resouce and why)</p>
<p>#) Low-impact or positive-impact (hence sustainable, rather than deteriorating) practices.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
FURTHER NOTES (to be folded into above as appropriate)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p> #  Decreasing or eliminating dependance on long-distance transport of food.<br />
       This may be achived by such things as:<br />
         > Food-related businesses using local farmers (incentives for doing so &#8230; scaled by percentage of local vs transported food)<br />
         > Promoting &#8220;Locally grown food served here&#8221; as a value for businessses to brag about.<br />
         > Educating adults and children on the benefits of local food</p>
<p>    &#8211; Maximizing water efficiency of local food production.<br />
       > water harvesting and greywater use training/incentives for farms and gardeners alike</p>
<p># Local wise-use AND balance maintenance of our resources.<br />
    &#8211; Ensuring sustainable practices are used for all agricultural lands.<br />
       * Some decisions should be made large scale / top-down based on statistics from impact studies, and permaculture sciences.<br />
       * Some will require bottom-up approach, like community education to increase awareness for better eating-habits and values, that in-turn would shift the nature of food demand, and therefore the industry would be forced to respond.<br />
        Points of concern may include:<br />
       > Organic practices that build soil through proper planting cycles, compost and mulching, rather than deplete soils through chemical fertelizing.<br />
      > Meat industry practices &#8212; need attention.  Goes hand-in hand with education of community on impact-values to their health, as well as to the regions water use, polution, etc.</p>
<p>   &#8211; Incentives for more efficient operations at every level.</p>
<p>   &#8211; Encouraging &#8220;Independence Gardens&#8221; for all families, schools, prisons, etc.<br />
     > Home gardening also has the benefit of creating more vegetable-based diets in more people, which serves some of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The
Sustainable Tucson Food Group
will meet on  Saturday, February 21
from  1 PM to 3 PM
in the  Casbah Tea House,
628  N. 4th Ave.

Minimum Purchase: a cup of tea. 
The full menu is available. 
Wi-Fi available

http://www.casbahteahouse.com/

Barry Andersen
barryallenandersen@gmail.com
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The<br />
Sustainable Tucson Food Group<br />
will meet on  Saturday, February 21<br />
from  1 PM to 3 PM<br />
in the  Casbah Tea House,<br />
628  N. 4th Ave.</p>
<p>Minimum Purchase: a cup of tea.<br />
The full menu is available.<br />
Wi-Fi available</p>
<p><a href="http://www.casbahteahouse.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.casbahteahouse.com/</a></p>
<p>Barry Andersen<br />
<a href="mailto:barryallenandersen@gmail.com">barryallenandersen@gmail.com</a><br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
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		<title>By: alehrman</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>alehrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notes from the 2/10/2009 Sustainable Tucson Food Group session at the Joel D. Valdez Library.

Introductions

1. Barry Andersen
2. Judith Mettson
3. Carla
4. Barbara Eiswerth
5. Carol Bradsen
6. Adam Lehrman
7. Ryan Andersen
8. Larry Lockhart
9. Rich Lundegren
10. Gloria Peterson
11. Cindy Brewer
12. Tim White
13. Victoria White
14. Woman from New York
15. Lisa from San Francisco

Discussed was:

1. Potential meeting place and date for an additional bi-monthly meeting at Casbah Tea House, or if not available, Time Market. The third Saturday of the month was chosen (next meeting: 2/21).

2. Local farm tours/general outings

3. A list of organizations that can be approached for insight and education.

4. Online mapping at http://habitatmap.org/ and a potential 30 min. workshop detailing it at the 2/21 meeting.

5. A mentoring program.

6. An end result of something to present to government planners that can lead to a more sustainable Tucson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notes from the 2/10/2009 Sustainable Tucson Food Group session at the Joel D. Valdez Library.</p>
<p>Introductions</p>
<p>1. Barry Andersen<br />
2. Judith Mettson<br />
3. Carla<br />
4. Barbara Eiswerth<br />
5. Carol Bradsen<br />
6. Adam Lehrman<br />
7. Ryan Andersen<br />
8. Larry Lockhart<br />
9. Rich Lundegren<br />
10. Gloria Peterson<br />
11. Cindy Brewer<br />
12. Tim White<br />
13. Victoria White<br />
14. Woman from New York<br />
15. Lisa from San Francisco</p>
<p>Discussed was:</p>
<p>1. Potential meeting place and date for an additional bi-monthly meeting at Casbah Tea House, or if not available, Time Market. The third Saturday of the month was chosen (next meeting: 2/21).</p>
<p>2. Local farm tours/general outings</p>
<p>3. A list of organizations that can be approached for insight and education.</p>
<p>4. Online mapping at <a href="http://habitatmap.org/" rel="nofollow">http://habitatmap.org/</a> and a potential 30 min. workshop detailing it at the 2/21 meeting.</p>
<p>5. A mentoring program.</p>
<p>6. An end result of something to present to government planners that can lead to a more sustainable Tucson</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Local Harvest Marketplace, 3954 E. Speedway held a meeting last night to try to save the business by engaging local people in the process. It struck me that, by doing so, people were trying to gain control over their food supply in a significant way. Perhaps others in the Food group will want to get involved, or discuss this action....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Local Harvest Marketplace, 3954 E. Speedway held a meeting last night to try to save the business by engaging local people in the process. It struck me that, by doing so, people were trying to gain control over their food supply in a significant way. Perhaps others in the Food group will want to get involved, or discuss this action&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food Group Meeting on Saturday 24 Jan 
There were four of us at the meeting&#039; Janice Carr,  Ron Proctor, Ellie Daucher, and me. Our discussion was mostly about the future of the group, what the goals might be (no conclusions were reached) and the immediate next steps.  At the meeting of the Sustainable Tucson general group on Feb 10, the various focus groups will each meet separately.  At that time, we will discuss when and where our food group will meet again.
Barry

&quot;All that is very well,&quot; answered Candide, &quot;but let us cultivate our garden.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food Group Meeting on Saturday 24 Jan<br />
There were four of us at the meeting&#8217; Janice Carr,  Ron Proctor, Ellie Daucher, and me. Our discussion was mostly about the future of the group, what the goals might be (no conclusions were reached) and the immediate next steps.  At the meeting of the Sustainable Tucson general group on Feb 10, the various focus groups will each meet separately.  At that time, we will discuss when and where our food group will meet again.<br />
Barry</p>
<p>&#8220;All that is very well,&#8221; answered Candide, &#8220;but let us cultivate our garden.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.sustainabletucson.org/2009/01/food/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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The
Sustainable Tucson Food Group
will meet on  Saturday, January 24
at  2:00 PM 
in the  Casbah Tea House,
628  N. 4th Ave.    

Minimum Purchase: a cup of tea. 
The full menu is available. 
Wi-Fi available

http://www.casbahteahouse.com/

Is this acceptable to everyone? Please reply, whether this is OK for you or not.  I need to let the Casbah know how large the group is going to be.  Please reply from your usual E-mail so I can get your address.

Barry Andersen
barryallenandersen@gmail.com

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<p>The<br />
Sustainable Tucson Food Group<br />
will meet on  Saturday, January 24<br />
at  2:00 PM<br />
in the  Casbah Tea House,<br />
628  N. 4th Ave.    </p>
<p>Minimum Purchase: a cup of tea.<br />
The full menu is available.<br />
Wi-Fi available</p>
<p><a href="http://www.casbahteahouse.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.casbahteahouse.com/</a></p>
<p>Is this acceptable to everyone? Please reply, whether this is OK for you or not.  I need to let the Casbah know how large the group is going to be.  Please reply from your usual E-mail so I can get your address.</p>
<p>Barry Andersen<br />
<a href="mailto:barryallenandersen@gmail.com">barryallenandersen@gmail.com</a></p>
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